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Thanks Rychyrd - tho guess you mean 16cms and 12coms unless you are a giant of a gardener!. Also trying to wrest some kind of a garden out of traditional olive and almond cortijo and at over 2000 feet so I have many failures. jAre you working mainly with succulents or flowering plants?

Hi again. I want to be brave enough to try other forms of cuttings and propogation. Living in the mountains with uncertain weather I lose a certain amount of trees and plants so propogation has become a big thing for me. Any ideas please

Hi this is SuBu here again under the improved managemento_O. Still looking for any help with cypresses. Have managed to get almonds to grow from seed now.

Hi Im new here but I have given up trying to find an answer to my question on the net. Quite amazing really. Got the seed... what to do with it... anyone tackled this please?